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Posted 10/20/2009 5:32 PM


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WOW Q on the turn so sick but hey great post wiggy n1 and at least you knew strr8 away raise was too small











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Posted 11/5/2009 11:40 PM


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i liked this one.....have to agree, put one on an ace & other on smaller pair..personally, not enough cash table experience to be comfortable with throwing more away to see his A (only to be sickened when Q hit (of course!!:sick)

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Posted 11/6/2009 1:44 AM
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Posted 11/6/2009 8:23 PM


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so if I understand it right, the first bet was too small. would a bet of $10 on the flop have been too risky?

 

 
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Posted 11/7/2009 8:58 AM


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Hi gruman

A quick explanation for you

My first raise is too small for the following reason, one player has raised in front of me and one player has called the raise, when it is my turn to bet there is $7.50 in the pot, I re raise $10.50 putting $18 in the pot, now the original raiser has to call $8 into a pot containing $18 so he is getting better than 2-1 pot odds to call and see a flop, the next player has to call $8 into a $26 pot so he is getting pot odds of 3-1 to see a flop, If I raise to $18 the original raiser has to call $15 into a $25 pot, so he will be getting less than 2-1 pot odds to see a flop, and the second player will have to make a decision based on what the first player does, I am probably looking for a call from one of them but not both, my original raise gave both of them the pot odds to see a flop

Is a $10 call on the flop too risky?

The pot contains $33 (less rake) I am out of position first to act on an ace high flop, with loose aggressive players you have to put them on a wide range of hands, so I can put one or both of them on ace rag, smaller pairs, or suited connectors, after all I priced them in

So I check, the first player bets $10 and the second player calls, so let’s have a look at what we think now, I am losing to any ace rag, a small pair may have made trips, there are 2 suited cards on the flop, so if somebody has 2 cards of the same suit they have 9 ways to make a flush, both players have put another $10 into the pot

I have QQ so realistically I have 2 cards that will improve my hand to a winning hand, there is $50 in the pot, I have pot odds of 5-1 (17%) I have 2 outs (8%) a call now is the wrong play as the odds are against me

I posted the original hand history because I could see the mistake straight away, you have to forget about the final outcome with the Q on the turn, that’s not important that’s playing in hindsight, I made a mistake and it cost me a decent pot, even if a raise of $16-20 makes them fold I will still pick up a $7.50 pot

 

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Posted 11/7/2009 11:24 AM


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Thank you Wiggy, that was a very good explanation.

 

 

 
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Posted 11/7/2009 12:16 PM


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Quote: aah 1carrot1 ivenever come acrossa better player

hey carrot you r pretty good

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Posted 11/19/2009 1:38 AM
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it's a tough fold.. 2 raises before you i raise it up more to get those drawing aces out of there.
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